Doctor Universalis wrote:I have to agree with juice. After all, the people who really shouldn't have guns are the ones who will be most willing to obtain them illegally.
And yes, there will always be stupid people in America, although I hope that no one is arguing about that.
I didn't actually grow up around guns, but my grandfather hunts as a hobby, both with bow and arrow and guns. There is no reason to deny honest, law abiding citizens their rights as a stopgap measure to reduce violent deaths. Education and banning gun ownership/possession by those convicted of violent crimes is the way to go, in my opinion.
Doctor Universalis wrote:Not to lend my voice to the anti-gun side, but, Butler did use guns as part of violent crimes, like, you know, assaulting an officer, and kidnapping. Just saying that he is not the best example. Try this, from 232 reasons to love the Marines: "93. John Lovell. A 71-year-old former Marine is sitting in a Subway restaurant when two armed men try to rob the place. Lovell grabs his .45, kills one and wounds the other. No word on how Lovell’s sandwich fared."
Doctor Universalis wrote:Well, Lethe, is it possible that the correlation has to do with other factors, such as better welfare systems, etc? Because if the American war on drugs has taught me anything, it is that we could not stop criminals from gaining access to firearms if they were to be outlawed. And, of course, the American justice system is a joke, like Mike Tyson getting one day in prison for drunk driving and cocaine possession.
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