"OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

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Do you think this is a good idea?

Yes.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby ILiveForTheDay » Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:25 pm

Dictionaries evolve as we evolve. Lol is something I've heard used out loud (which makes it all the more weird when my dad signs off his texts 'lol'. Wai- What's funny? Ooooh.) but OMG is not. I think for non-english speakers, they'd like to know what they mean.

I read somewhere that at some point America/England/Australia won't be able to understand each other as the language gradually changes completely, but I think the internet is important to keeping up with it all. I've never been to Australia, and were it not for the net I wouldn't have a clue what a ranga is, or that you can eat goldfish in America (type of cracker-y thing). It's important that things change as we change.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Multiverse » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:26 pm

British English is taught at an early age in most European countries, though, and Americans will hopefully keep watching English TV (where would we be without the BBC? :laughing: ), so I think it´d take some quite unexpected changes for those three languages to evolve completely away from each other.

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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby sharkie » Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:22 pm

Arty1995 wrote:8 people voted 'No.' How come I am the only one truely saying it's not good?


Because at first they think "No!" Vote, then they think about it and realise there is no reason for that.

And multiverse, I'd say Americans are much more effective in keeping our languages similar than the other way round. There is much more american telly in the uk than the other way round.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby ILiveForTheDay » Thu May 12, 2011 8:44 pm

sharkie wrote:
Arty1995 wrote:8 people voted 'No.' How come I am the only one truely saying it's not good?


Because at first they think "No!" Vote, then they think about it and realise there is no reason for that.

And multiverse, I'd say Americans are much more effective in keeping our languages similar than the other way round. There is much more american telly in the uk than the other way round.


I'd second that. I don't think I can physically get Britain's Next Top Model, but the American one shows up regularly on one of the main channels. Okay, bad example. For very little kids you get Cbeebies, and then young tweens get Cbbc. Once you hit a certain age there's nothing except American for you (And even that's not quite right. There's Disney or Nickolodean, then you get the ones where there's a sex scene every show and you have three younger siblings who ask questions. Hard to balance)
I have noticed Hasselhoff coming over here for Britain's Got Talent (He irritates the heck out of me. He should leave.) and Cheryl Cole going over for XFactor, so I suppose that's a bit of swapsies. Even Stevens.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Frondish17 » Fri May 13, 2011 4:02 am

I am proud of you, fellow fans :) the majority goes with "no", which is always nice to know. LOL and OMG are not "words". They are acronyms, firstly. Secondly, they are not used in concordance with a dictionary at any time. A dictionary is used as a writing tool, and I sincerely hope no one uses LOL in a term paper. While it might clarify the meanings of these modern acronyms, it should be a thing separate from the place scholars go to pick and choose for essays, research assignments, and books. You know what I'm trying to say?
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Kitsy » Fri May 13, 2011 11:27 am

There are plenty of acronyms in the dictionary, should we take them all out? And a dictionary is not necessarily used as a writing tool - that's just how you use it. It's to record words used in contemporary language so that people who don't understand a word can go and look it up. What if someone doesn't know the meaning of "lol" or "omg" and is writing a paper on how language is changing? Well, now they can go look it up in a dictionary.]

I don't understand what the big problem is. These words have passed the tests that all other words have to pass to be "real" and to get into the dictionary. There is no reason why they are "lesser" words than any others.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Tenzen12 » Fri May 13, 2011 12:38 pm

Are they realy "real words" is there difference between them and for example smilies? For me it just another emoticon and have same weight. If LoL why not put into this dictionary also :)s

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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Frondish17 » Fri May 13, 2011 9:07 pm

I was just answering for the heck of it, I'm not exactly losing sleep over it :lick: You are correct, Kitsy, you have a point. But I still lean towards 'no' just because. And incidentally, why are we not putting smilies and emoticons in the dictionary if we get to put lol and omg in?
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Kitsy » Fri May 13, 2011 9:47 pm

Because apparantly they havn't passed the requirements for being in a dictionary. I would assume it's because they're not actual "words," where as "lol" and "omg" are, even if they're acronyms for words.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby bluealice » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:15 pm

Of course Not! They're just mere expressions. Not a word.

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And incidentally, why are we not putting smilies and emoticons in the dictionary if we get to put lol and omg in?

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Postby Sorcha » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:51 pm

Because they're commonly used acronyms. Smileys do not depict words they're expressions.
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Postby levina » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:38 am

If your dictionary includes things that are made of symbols and not letters (like the smiley) then it's totally possible for a smiley to be in there.

And acronyms: There are a lot of acronyms in dictionaries; most of them are acronyms that people never really use. . .And they don't have to be commonly used acronyms to show up in the dictionary. There's even French, Spanish, and Latin words there; what's wrong with some slang?
And have you ever noticed that everyday language encompasses only a small fraction of the words in the dictionary? I don't think it matters what words are in the dictionary. If they're words that exist and they're defined properly, then the dictionary has served its purpose.

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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Mizora » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:08 pm

sharkie wrote:
Arty1995 wrote:8 people voted 'No.' How come I am the only one truely saying it's not good?


Because at first they think "No!" Vote, then they think about it and realise there is no reason for that.

I voted "No!" and I still think "No!" for all the aforementioned reasons.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby AthenaParadizo » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:30 pm

That's truly awful! It's like encouraging people to abbreviate simple words- basically using a dictionary to encourage gradual illiteracy, as messed up as that sounds!
Picture this- 20 years from now, your son/daughter is in a spelling bee. The judge says to them,"Here is your word. Since it is pronounced in letters, here is the pronunciation- lawl."
If we are putting abbreviations for silly things in the dictionary, when are we going to introduce the emoticon?

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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Elisa3750 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:07 pm

I think it would be better to put it in the dictionary, because people like me often don't know what they mean. I have a friend who kept texting me BRB, and I just found out last week that it means be right back. so, I think it's good to have it in the dictionary where it's much easier to find the meanings of these words.


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