"OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Multiverse » Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:31 pm

opalkoboi wrote:
Kitsy wrote:But eg. is probably in the dictionary, as is etc. - which are acronyms that aren't for names.

WAG = wives and girlfriends (of footballers).
IMHO - Um, IMO is in my opinion, so maybe honest?


Just asking, what does IMHO mean and IMO mean? :blush:
I really need to leanr this stuff so I can understand people on the internet - and my sister, of course. xD


Both have been mentioned in this topic already. ;)

IMO means In My Opinion, and IMHO is an alternate version that means either In My Honest Opinion or In My Humble Opinion. ;)

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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Arty1995 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:30 am

Well, it could be worse. At least XD hasn't been added.

An acronym is an initialism that's pronounced as a word, like SCUBA, so technically only LOL is an acronym. Unless you say ohmg or something, then you're just an idiot.

Even then LOL is barely one seeing as how it's often said as l oh l. So in summary you're wrong.

What's next? pl0x, tl:dr, ftw or fml enters the English dictionary?
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Kitsy » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:11 am

They might, if they are used enough and become a part of everyday language of enough people. There are rules to this you know, someone didn't just go "Wouldn't it be great if "lol" was in the dictionary" and it just happened. If something fits the criteria, why shouldn't it go in?
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby opalkoboi » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:37 pm

Arty1995 wrote:Well, it could be worse. At least XD hasn't been added.

An acronym is an initialism that's pronounced as a word, like SCUBA, so technically only LOL is an acronym. Unless you say ohmg or something, then you're just an idiot.

Even then LOL is barely one seeing as how it's often said as l oh l. So in summary you're wrong.

What's next? pl0x, tl:dr, ftw or fml enters the English dictionary?


1) DOn't call people idoits for how they pronounce things.
2) Many people do not say L-O-L, they say "lol" like the name Lol. The majority of people do, actually.
3) Don't be stupid. Pl0x (whatever that means) ect will likely never enter a dictionary, at least not in our lifetimes, for a start they have numbers in! The point is the majority of teenagers (just saying teens because it is the most common age group to use this acrynom) say it at least once a day, so it is as commonly used as "the" so it may as well be in a dictionary as it's a word, even if you don't use it others do.
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Postby Arty1995 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:28 am

What is the world coming to? :(
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Postby sharkie » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:36 am

Why is it that you think that letting "OMG" and "LOL" into the dictionary means the world is becoming a worse place?
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Postby Arty1995 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:52 am

Little things build up to bigger things. This adds up to various other little things making something even worse.
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Postby Kitsy » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:29 am

Arty, you've no idea what you're talking about. Debate or leave.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Arty1995 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:08 am

How dare you tell me what I know and do not know. I hope you are ashamed of yourself, being like that towards another human being...!

The English language is evolving, granted, but not like this. Colloquial langauge evolves the language not slang. (Especially internet slang) It's degrading english not improving. The general public does not use OMG and LOL in real life. Teenagers are NOT the majority and I doubt any adults run around saying them or anything.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Kitsy » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:11 pm

But why can't "LOL" be seen as colliquial? And so what if it's just teenagers who use it - they're still a major part of society, their language is as much a part of the English language as any words an adult would use. Not to mention, "lol"'s been around long enough for people from the age of nine to thirty to be using it. There is no reason as to why it's "degrading" the English language other than language snobbery; it's just a new way of speaking that some people don't like because it's not "traditional."
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Arty1995 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:45 am

It's an acrynom like SCUBA and has no meaning unlike SCUBA. If someone says a joke you do not say "lol!" or "el-oh-el" you laugh. Anyone can agree with this. If you use it for 'lots of love' you do not say "I <did such and such> for you with lol" that sounds too weird even for me.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Kitsy » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:47 am

I've heard plenty of people saying "lol" in everyday conversation, after a joke that perhaps wasn't too funny to laugh at but still amusing. "Lol" isn't just used on the internet anymore, it's used in RL which is why it can go in the dictionary.

And what about words like "e.g.", very few people would actually say that outloud, but it should still be in the dictionary.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby hyunjoonglovie » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:04 pm

Well, personally, I am against having abbreviations like 'OMG' and 'LOL' added to the Oxford dictionary.

Having said that, I see why they are being added. On a daily basis (and yes Heiki, it is much to my annoyance too), my friends will say 'lol', pronouncing it exactly as it's read. So on that front, I might agree that 'lol' should be added to the dictionary, because like it or not, it is now a very common word in everyday speech.

However, I do not think the abbreviation 'OMG' should be added. It is not a word, when people speak it, they say 'Oh my God', not 'oh-mij'. Personally I think this abbreviation would best be left to the short-cut language of the Internet.

On a slightly related note, we should also consider those who are learning English as a second language. It would not only be confusing for them I think, but I imagine they would also find the abbreviation unnecessary. I know I would, because when you think about it, the word 'lol' is literally replacing laughter o_O.

Also could you imagine a Japanese person trying to pronounce OMG? "ohh-emu-geee"... Hilarious XD
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby Arty1995 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:03 pm

Us english elitist (The majority of english-speaking people) will use intellectual english (Every day english) while you people can use your unorthadox and incoherent colloqiual english. Deep down inside we all know our english is more subtle.
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Re: "OMG" and "LOL" enter The Oxford English Dictionary

Postby sharkie » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:48 pm

Arty1995 wrote:Us english elitist (The majority of english-speaking people) will use intellectual english (Every day english) while you people can use your unorthadox and incoherent colloqiual english. Deep down inside we all know our english is more subtle.



That's a load of rubbish that the majority of english speaking people use your english. What you consider everyday english is NOT everyday english. Everyday english varies from place to place- everyday english in Newcastle is different from everyday english in New York which is different from every day english in Glasgow which is different from everyday english in Sydney.

English is a language spoken all over the world and has many different form, there is no such thing as a defined every day english- or correct English.
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