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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby BkkprGirl » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:42 pm

Actually, for those people who haven't read TOD, this thread is a huge spoiler... And I think that basically we're all going to be sad about it.

But all in all, I thought it was well-planned and a good move for Colfer to take... He was a central character, we cared about him, but it wouldn't have hurt us as badly as if Holly, Butler, or Artemis died. We need those characters because we care about them so much. Mulch we care about too, and seeing as he's not a really 'core' character (he comes and goes with the plot), he could have been in trouble, but he's the comic relief and whenever you kill the comic relief it just breaks your heart.

Someone had to die. Commander Root was the best option.
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby ILiveForTheDay » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:17 pm

You're so cruel! "Someone had to die. Commander Root was the best option.". Okay he was the easiest to kill but that didn't make him the best option! Opal should have gone instead and saved us another few books of her! Or Trouble, or Minerva (then we wouldn't have had to have her in book 5)! Usually I like these charectars but Root rules -goes off to cry in corner-

But I do have to admit the entire death was brilliantly written. And we did get to see him for a little bit in the TP.
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby boy G » Sun May 23, 2010 1:14 pm

it was really upsetting. i knew that Holly and Root were walking into a trap, but i never expected him to die. when Holly shot, i assumed she hit the button, but then he went boom.

i had to read thorough it twice before i realized what had happened, then i sorta shouted a little bit, got that annoyingly painful feeling in my throat and developed a rather large does of hatingOpalness.

but then i read on and at the end of the book i was rather smug about what might happen to her. although i was a bit disappointed she dint end up in front of a firing squad.
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby onecoolc » Sun May 23, 2010 4:58 pm

Because that's not a spoiler in the title.

I have mixed feelings about Roots death. It was a fantastic scene, a necessary plot device, and I miss the commander dearly. In the book it was written, it was absolutely perfect, and served a purpose in the books to follow. But I can't help but feel that the later books were missing something without Root. He was a great personality to have around, and Sool is definitely no replacement. I would hate for him to "come back to life", but I can't shake the feeling the LEP will never be complete again. (Which, I guess, could be part of the point of him dieing in the first place. But I don't have to like it!)

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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby Mere Reflection » Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:54 am

Spoiler, just in case. Better safe than sorry!

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I was upset about Roots death, and you know his last words , 'be well', that is what really makes you miserable. If anyone else here watched the last Dr Who with the last Doctor, whose last words were, 'but I don't want to die,' you know how that really just slams it home and you realise that they are not coming back. I found those two words sadder than any of the rest. It may seem silly but it is true. R.I.P.


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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby Cat Moon » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:34 am

I know exactly where you're coming from with that, Mere Reflection - I managed to not cry right the way through - until those last two words. :blush:
I guess if they just say something glib, there's the chance they might be back, but if you get some really serious last-words kind of thing, then you know that's it for the character. So, yeah, I cried. :blush:
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby ILiveForTheDay » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:08 pm

Cat Moon wrote:I know exactly where you're coming from with that, Mere Reflection - I managed to not cry right the way through - until those last two words. :blush:
I guess if they just say something glib, there's the chance they might be back, but if you get some really serious last-words kind of thing, then you know that's it for the character. So, yeah, I cried. :blush:


Thank goodness I wasn't the only one. I get so emotional in books, but I managed to hold it together for most of it like you. It was only after the bomb went off it suddenly hit home that Artemis/ Butler/ Foaly/ Mulch/Some Freak wasn't going to appear and save him. Before that last moment I'm always waiting for the author to pull off some magic trick to keep them alive.
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby Cat Moon » Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:13 am

I guess that's because, as a general rule, the authors do usually magicly save their characters, because they can't bear to kill them off - y'know, like, 'Trouble thought it was odd they hadn't called back and got there just before the bomb went off', or something even more improbable, like 'Mulch had been tunneling and happened to bite through the straps as he came to the tunnel wall!'
So it really hits home when an author actually does take the plunge and kill off a character. Although, if they make the films out of AF, I am going to cry my eyes out, because I'm always way more emotional in films. :blush:
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby ILiveForTheDay » Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:27 pm

Cat Moon wrote:I guess that's because, as a general rule, the authors do usually magicly save their characters, because they can't bear to kill them off - y'know, like, 'Trouble thought it was odd they hadn't called back and got there just before the bomb went off', or something even more improbable, like 'Mulch had been tunneling and happened to bite through the straps as he came to the tunnel wall!'
So it really hits home when an author actually does take the plunge and kill off a character. Although, if they make the films out of AF, I am going to cry my eyes out, because I'm always way more emotional in films. :blush:


I'm about equal in both. In books I get really into the characters head, and in films I get really into the characters from an outsider POV, both of which set me off when they die. I really am pathetic :blush:

And I had the most awful thought last night. I think I remember somewhere, vaguely, in an interview Colfer saying that he was had just killed off a character (talking about TAC) and I've just remembered Vinyaya. I couldn't bear it if she went.
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby Mere Reflection » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:26 pm

ILiveForTheDay wrote:
Cat Moon wrote:I guess that's because, as a general rule, the authors do usually magicly save their characters, because they can't bear to kill them off - y'know, like, 'Trouble thought it was odd they hadn't called back and got there just before the bomb went off', or something even more improbable, like 'Mulch had been tunneling and happened to bite through the straps as he came to the tunnel wall!'
So it really hits home when an author actually does take the plunge and kill off a character. Although, if they make the films out of AF, I am going to cry my eyes out, because I'm always way more emotional in films. :blush:


I'm about equal in both. In books I get really into the characters head, and in films I get really into the characters from an outsider POV, both of which set me off when they die. I really am pathetic :blush:

And I had the most awful thought last night. I think I remember somewhere, vaguely, in an interview Colfer saying that he was had just killed off a character (talking about TAC) and I've just remembered Vinyaya. I couldn't bear it if she went.
Oh please that be true and about Minerva... Please Minerva, we din't need you, you can die! Minerva! Your grave is calling! Answer it with a yes! For me? PLEASE! (but I agree; don't let it be wittle Vinyaya; I mean I grew quite close to her after reading her correspondance with Opal (it was in the code along the bottom of one of the books. By the end Opal had sworn to kill her beat her daily.) But no matter who dies except Minervait will be sad. :(
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby JetDragon1656 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:04 pm

branden wrote:What do you think about Commander Root dying in the Opal Deception :crying:

SADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crying2: i couldn't believe it happened!!!
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Postby NerdGurl » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:24 pm

I cried! I love Root! :(

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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby FadingLight » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:41 am

I spent a large section of the book in denial, which softened the blow somewhat when I got to the end of the book, but it was still a big surprise. For some reason I always imagined Root present at whatever big confrontation would be at the end of the series, and then he's killed halfway through, which made me hate Opal Koboi (but not her truffles, because they are a very yummy plot device). I think the scene from the graphic novel when Holly isn't allowed to attend Root's funeral is really well-done, because it actually looks sad, what with the reflections on the glass and Holly crying and the false sunset and Foaly's speech and they way Artemis does grieve but pretty clearly has no idea what to say.
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby Rocket Axxonu » Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:01 am

If I'm understanding what you're saying right, I think I might have had the same reaction. I didn't really cry or have this horrible moment like, because the first time I read it, I had this feeling like he wasn't really dead, like there would somehow be a twist and it would turn out he survived after all. So I accepted it slowly over the course of the book, and that kind of softened the blow, I think.
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Re: Commander Roots Death

Postby Athena32 » Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:39 pm

I agree that his death was well done, and he was the (sorry) best character to kill. It's the same situation as we had with Dumbledore. He had to die.
I think the part that bothers me most about his death is the affect it had on Holly. I've always imagined that she's blamed herself for his and Vinyaya's death and is always burdened by that guilt.
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