Frondish17 wrote:Woah, woah, woah...What do you have against the LOTR movies? They were amazing!! And, I think, one of the only movies that is actually better than the books, because they just make the books so much more tangible. I mean, sure, PJ left out Tom Bombadil, and the Scouring of the Shire, but the sheer awesome-ness of the movies makes up for that.
LOL sorry, lotrfan, but I have a LOT against the movies. Yes, the special effects, the score, the mass-scale production was all awesome and amazing. And I am not quibbling over parts they left out (Tolkien actually didn't know where he was going when he was writing Tom Bombadil and that whole part of the story - he admitted it - so I don't mind that. I wasn't expecting that, anyway). The thing I dislike about the movie is the casting. Some characters were awesome: Boromir, Faromir, Denethor, Theoden, Eowyn, Gimli, Gandalf . . . basically everyone was either great or passable. But Frodo and Sam make me want to gag, personally. I mean, if they were going to totally wreck of the relationship between the two anyway by making Frodo like twenty years younger than Sam, then why not have gone the whole hog and changed his personality a little to make the face fit the actions? It seems really weird to me that they gave Wood and Astin the same relationship that Frodo and Sam had in the books, where Frodo was older than Sam. So here is Astin totally dependent upon this guy who could be his son, who in turn acts patronizing and stuck up. I dunno - those two ruin the movie for me.
can we still be friends? lol
. . . and why in heck am I still a Tunnel Blue Spider?? I've been a Tunnel Blue Spider for two days now! I want a promotion!!
lol. Sure, we'll still be friends
I personally like the relationship between the two, and I don't even notice the age difference at all when I watch the movies. He's only ten years younger, it isn't that apparent. Frodo's a wuss, we all know that, but they have a believable friendship the way it's portrayed, and Astin does the emotional parts well I think. You can definitely see how Sam is the real hero. Just because of that one thing, doesn't make the movies a disgrace to the books, and it definitely shouldn't make you lose faith. That's just one thing that you have against them...everything else is still amazing.
Seriously, I think if Peter Jackson directed the AF movie, it would be really good.