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homosexuality

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Should gay marriage be legalized

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no
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Re: homosexuality

Postby levina » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:11 am

It doesn't matter whether it's 4% or 10%. Different studies can yield different results, and homosexuality is a hard thing to measure. Besides, my point was that it was a very small percentage of the overall population.

Yes, it's all fine if you just state the fact that you think someone's argument is weak, but I think in a debate "show, don't tell" is the way, so why do it?

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Re: homosexuality

Postby Tenzen12 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:47 am

OK I have impression hat I get what you mean. But what about little example? :laughing: I would like know your oppinion on both of these arguments (Kitsi and mine) not from perspective of sides but mere logic, who do you think is more right on this one and why? (It is not trick or anything but just I wonder about that a bit)
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Re: homosexuality

Postby levina » Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:17 am

Heh, I've only seen one of your posts against Kitsy's, so I don't have much to go on. If you really want to know, I don't think either of your arguments is "more right." You're both right with the facts you bring up, but you have different opinions about what these facts might mean. Kitsy's makes more sense to me - that's probably why I was arguing with you - because my opinion is similiar to hers...does that make sense?


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Re: homosexuality

Postby Tenzen12 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:11 am

I am not sure, but whatever I would say right now, would sound somehow querulously, which would be bad as I asked for your opinion from curiousity. I will thing what exactly say to this to bring my arguments clearly without that. (I will do it tomorow not later).

Anyway you others please ignore these two or three post between me and Levina until then and express yourself directly to KittsiXmine arguments (or bring yours own totaly unrelated to us :laughing: )

OK I am back and after thorought thinking I can say honestly It doesn't. Despite fact that there isn't issue about humanity dying out due homosexuality right now (which is issue I don't think anyone ever brought here yet), argument that homosexuals would do somethink that they find repulsive just to contribute society is ulikely in most cases. Straight people are same on that anyway.
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Postby #Aurum Est Potestas# » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:05 pm

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Re: homosexuality

Postby Antilles » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:11 pm

Aurum, regardless of your opinions you do not have the right to insult or attack other forum members. The debate forum is meant to be a civil discussion. I don't care if you disagree with their points of view but you will show respect to other members.

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Re: homosexuality

Postby AliceFowl » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:54 pm

I happen to be very good friends with some gay and bi-sexual people. I love them dearly and would never hurt them or attack them. However, I do personally believe, because I am a Christian, that it goes severely against God's plan for us as human beings. We were created to have children as male and female. The power to do so is, to me, strictly to be used between these two. Even for those who are atheists, you cannot say that evolution will kick in and change the human body to be capable of creating children between anything other than a male and female. It is simply how we were created.

As I have said, I have dear friends who are homosexuals, and I would never do anything to harm them, or attack them for their own feelings. But these are my beliefs, and I will stick by them.
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Re: homosexuality

Postby levina » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:57 pm

Evolution will never do that, but adoption can suffice. We have far more orphans in the world than we can deal with anyway, so perhaps more homosexual couples can be a good thing.

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Re: homosexuality

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Postby Merv Simestra » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:12 pm

"On God rests my salvation and my glory; my mighty rock, my refuge is God."
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Re: homosexuality

Postby levina » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:47 am

Well, marriage isn't exclusive to Christians, so why are you assigning it the meaning that applies to Christians?

Marriage is, in the most basic definition, the joining of two people who love each other. Love and commitment is everyone's right, as you've said, so why can't marriage be everyone's right?

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Re: homosexuality

Postby Merv Simestra » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:06 am

"On God rests my salvation and my glory; my mighty rock, my refuge is God."
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Re: homosexuality

Postby nindra » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:37 am

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Re: homosexuality

Postby Merv Simestra » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:33 pm

Well, is it out of true love that gay people want to marry, or is it simply infatuation? If it is infatuation, then the marriage is bond to fail so why let it happen? If it is true love, then all right let them have one shot at it.


Please keep in mind that marriage is a very serious thing. Marriage is a lifelong commitment. That means that every couple who gets married has to take things seriously. (Do not use Hollywood's examples of marriage as true examples. They messed it up completely.) Imagine the reaction of the parents of the couple if they got a divorce over something stupid. That's a lot of money down the drain.
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Re: homosexuality

Postby levina » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:37 pm

I don't know what your intentions are, but it sounds like you're implying that gay love can not possibly be true, real, love - heterosexual love, for example. So any marriage bourne out of it can not possibly last.

I'm pretty certain that gay people know that marriage is a serious thing. Otherwise they wouldn't bother fighting so hard for it.


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