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Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

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Is homework a usefull form of learning.

Yes, It's very usefull
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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby Darklightr » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:55 am

I think homework is useful, to a point. When I get drilled with homework, some times I say "To hell with it!" and put it away somewhere. But, that's not to say I don't find it useful. Usually, my teacher's give my classes homework that pertains to the curriculum, but sometimes, maybe 6 times out of ten, I get assigned homework that has nothing to do with what I'm learning in the course. For instance, what does music have to do with the Odyssey? Nothing what so ever. So why teach music in English, where we learn about Greek myths? Who knows, but they did. and it was really boring, and so, no homework was done.
The problem is with me, I'm 15, and haven't fully experienced school, so I don't have a full understanding of it's purpose, but this is from my perspective.
Like for a course such as Science. The best way to learn science, is to work on models, and do experiences
(this is what my teacher told us the first day of ninth grade). And math, the best way to learn Math, DO YOUR WORK. trust me on that, I've learned my lesson.

But how do you homework with a course like Introduction to Business? When I took this last year, I didn't not have the same programs at home as I did at school. We were taught to use Microsoft Office 2007, which is AMAZING btw. but at home, most people I know use '03, which is very different from '07. And some people can't afford '07, and some people's parents said, "No.", like mine. So then, how do you assigned homework?

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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby Mere Reflection » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:19 pm

It's a good point there that you often need certain technology to be able to complete assignments. Peer pressure could also be a nuisance if someone doesn't have that but feels that admitting it will set them apart from their friends.

Funny you should mention that you are fifteen- I'm twelve. I know I act as if I know everything about this topic (even though I obviously don't), but that is just because I debated this particular topic in a debating competition.

I believe that homework does get in the way in certain subjects, and that overloading of unnecessary homework is a needless and impractical idea. Don't think that I'm just saying "all homework is bad we should completely get rid of it" and sorry if that's what it sounds like. I just have first hand experience of the harms and strongly believe that homework is not always beneficial and is something we should warn people about.
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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby lethe_naiad » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:14 pm

I don't mean to cause offence, MR, but you're looking at this through a perhaps unsuitable perspective. Homework when you're 12 is completely different to homework when you're 15 or 18, and you wouldn't start to see the benefits of it yet.

Homework as you get older is more revision-based and usable. You get much more of it, you're expected to do it properly and it reflects on your grades. It reinforces the ideas you learn in school, and it prepares you for study and research.

When I was an HSC student (final exams, A-level and IB equivalent, like NEWTS in Harry Potter), I found that doing my homework saved me when revision came around. If you know the content through and through, it's much easier and more efficient to revise.

As a university student, I don't know how I could cope with my current workload if I didn't have years of practice instilled by homework. Aside from taking notes in lectures and participating in practical and theoretical work in laboratories and tutorials, you're expected to study, have frequent exams, quizzes, lab reports and assignments. That's on top of paid work. If you don't keep up, you fail, and you don't get a degree. Simple. There is no sugar-coating in tertiary education.

Once you finish university, the work keeps on coming. Most professional jobs, the ones we want our children to have, require large amounts of work at home. It is not unusual for professionals like my parents to work 16 to 18 hour days. It's expected that you devote a large amount of personal time to taking work home with you.

Homework in school not only helps you succeed at school, but it also prepares you for a tertiary workload and a lifetime of hard work. Starting early is only logical.

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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby Mere Reflection » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:31 am

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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby lethe_naiad » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:17 am

My point is that, even though homework isn't necessary for revision at your age, it is practice for when you need to be able to do it.

I think you have a great debating attitude :)

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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby bentj96 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:36 am

Homework is most certainly NOT the most useful form of learning. It certainly helps many people learn and is good for practice. It also helps you work more independently to fix your own mistakes. But... there is generally no one to help you as you're doing your homework. You have no way to communicate with your teacher and if you come across something you don't know how to do then the homework is pointless. Of course you can figure it out yourself but that isn't always the best way since you can make mistakes while doing the homework which will affect you in the future. Math is a good example. You can do it one way, or the other. You may get the same answer but you may not fully understand why or how.

There is really no such thing as the most useful form of learning. With a teacher, they teacher has 30 other students to teach and you learn less independently. With a tutor, you may also work less independently than you should.
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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby Rocket Axxonu » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:50 pm

It's pretty much already been said here, but I think the key to whether it is really beneficial or not is finding a good balance on what amout to give, and what difficulty level it should be at.

Homework can teach us responsibility and discipline, and gradually ease us into having the greater discipline we will need to have as an adult (as lethe_naiad pointed out). It also reinforces the material learned in school, which ordinarily would probably be forgotten as soon as the student left class. When you get into college especially and have reading homework, that reading I've found helps me really engage with a subject more as I am spending more time thinking about it than I normally would.

However, I have a problem with the mentality of 'children will just watch TV and not manage their time properly, so we should force them to make better use of it by giving them more homework.' Not that anyone here has been arguing this, but it's one I've heard thrown out there before, so I just want to comment on it.

The thing is, many children will already have interests of their own and be eager to learn - schooling on subjects they don't care about is there to make them well-rounded, but many will naturally seek out new information in other areas in the activities they do for fun in their free time. Science experiments, reading, writing their own stories, drawing, even playing video games - those could all be preparing them for the career path they will eventually follow.

So basically, I think homework is a very effective form of learning, but I believe the most effective form is when a child willingly pursues a subject he/she is interested in for fun. (but obviously that can't be duplicated in school as a sure thing for all students for every subject). I think homework may be the most effective form of learning for school, but if homework is trumped up as the only kind of learning that matters and the child is given too much, its effectiveness goes down as it limits the child's opportunity to pursue what they are really interested in. For instance, I strongly disagree with the heavy homeowork burden placed on students in certain countries, such as Korea (or at least, that's what I've heard).

For example, I am an art (drawing/painting) major and the time I've spent drawing as a child and trying to get better at it has really helped me get beneficial experience to prepare me for that. The hours upon hours I spent writing fanfiction for fun I believe also helped make writing much easier for me, and so that later helped me make better/more clear essays for school.

But when I had a lot of homework (especially in eleventh and twelfth grade), I basically shut down working on my own projects, and my free time was spent watching TV and trying to relax. So for me, a reasonable amount of homework fires me up (especially when it does not involve long term papers or projects), but too much, even a little too much, and I lose my motivation to do anything outside that.

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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby Tenzen12 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:04 pm

I think any kind of learnig or practising is good for these who are able take it seriously.
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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby bentj96 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:59 pm

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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby Tenzen12 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:23 pm

Oh ok. In that case I would say it would be most useful form if it was used for leting studen't apply knowledge and develop own strong point. In that case it would be. But if I hear such sentence somewhere I am rather annoyed and tend not belive they (institution) are realy able do it. I am pessimist in these alternative thing, but if it worked it would be most useful form.

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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby Rocket Axxonu » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:56 pm

Yeah, now that you mention it... it's true that homework may not be the most effective form of learning. But the thing is, one can give lots of reasons for saying why it's not effective, but if someone is going to put that forth, they also have to provide a *more* effective method to replace it. Many teaching methods would work if the students were motivated to do their best (as you mentioned earlier Tenzen), but the goal of teachers is to try something new and hope that to get students who aren't normally interested involved as well.

The best method of learning then is probably a healthy mixture of several different methods, homework only being one (probably indispensible) method among many. It doesn't even have to be a lot, at least at the earlier age levels. It's hard to say whether homework in *the* most effective form of learning, but the fact that it takes self-motivation to do it most of the time, and self-motivation probably *is* the greatest key to learning, means that I would call homework a very necessary part of school learning. It doesn't just teach you stuff, it teaches how to learn.
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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby Multiverse » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:26 pm

Hands-on initiative is far more informative (and easier to remember) than homework, but that doesn´t make homework unneeded. Homework has a purpose, but should never replace all other learning forms.

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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby JetDragon1656 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:19 pm

i only think its useful if you first understand how the heck to do it in the first place lol. i hate teachers who just hand out work without teaching how to do it
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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby cezen » Thu May 17, 2012 7:32 pm

My Latin 102 teacher always assigned translations as homework. But, never checked them or went over all of them. She'd start like a week before the test, and only go over like two pages out of the 10 she assigned.

As a result, I stopped doing the work. I stopped learning the material. And basically didn't learn the language.... unlike my previous Latin teacher who actually assigned homework, checked over it in class, and called you to answer questions in front of the whole class. I actually learned then.

I'm not sure if Homework is the most useful form, but if you're lazy like me, homework is the only thing stemming the tides of laziness from overtaking you.

(Probably still got a B+ in the class though =], we'll see)
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Re: Homework- Is it the most useful form of learning??

Postby AF Lover » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:37 am

No to HW! I have wasted too many nights working on the exact same thing we did in class! Ugg!
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